Studio Tips: Separating two sounds with Logic’s Match EQ

Posted on April 9, 2010

Say you got a fat kick drum and on top of that a fat bass line. They both sound great if you solo them, but tend to clash when you play them both at the same time.

There are a few tricks to separate them. Most of the time you decide which one of the two is covering the sub frequencies, and which one is covering the higher bass frequencies. So say your kick has the most energy at 60hz and your bass line the most energy at 100hz, then you can be sure that you’re quite safe.

But what if you have trouble separating the two with just using your regular EQ? And what if you want to have a really low subby kick AND a really low subby bass line? Of course you could sidechain the bass line with a compressor. Or program your bass line, so that it doesn’t play at the same time as your kick drum.

But there’s another way: For example in our remix for ‘Mike Dunn’s Gitcho House On‘ we wanted to have both a low kick AND a sub bass line, the bass line played at the same time as the kick, and sidechaining wasn’t sufficient.

Bring on Logic’s Match EQ:

1. Put Match EQ on your bass line channel.

2. Go to the upper right hand side and choose your kick drum channel at the Side Chain dropdown menu.

3. Click ‘Template Learn’, press play and let Match EQ learn the characteristics of your kick.

4. Press stop, set your Side Chain to ‘None’.

5. Click ‘Current Learn’, press play and let Match EQ learn the characteristics of your bass line.

6. Click ‘Material Match’.

7. Set ‘Phase’ to ‘Minimal’ (especially with low frequencies this is important, if you use it to separate higher sounds, use ‘Linear’)

8. Slide ‘Apply’ to a minimal value (say -20% or something).

9. Use ‘Smoothing’ to fine tune.

10. Use Fade Extremes to cancel out frequencies you don’t want to be affected (click the triangle in the lower left hand corner to unfold).

Presto, you just separated your bass line from your kick drum!

Now you can also use this method to separate strings from a vocal. Or if you use a positive value at step 8, to match one sound to another sound.

  • THNX!!!!!!

  • THNX!!!!!!

  • Conhuir McKee

    Cheers for this, really helped! Maybe an Ableton tut next time?

  • Conhuir McKee

    Cheers for this, really helped! Maybe an Ableton tut next time?

  • aLEX

    Thanks Chocolate puma , for this videos !! , we would like some videos talking about the process of vocal and rhythm programming, percussion, talking about the quantization, swing etc. .. thanks

  • aLEX

    Thanks Chocolate puma , for this videos !! , we would like some videos talking about the process of vocal and rhythm programming, percussion, talking about the quantization, swing etc. .. thanks

  • E-MerG

    Hi
    Great tip.. unfortunately, for those who doesnt have a Mac, what plug in can be similar as MatchEQ ..??
    thanks !

    • Ortegon

      hi, i´m looking for the same answer, any luck for you?

  • Seg

    is  it possible to do the same thing with tc-electronics assimilator ? 

  • Ortegon

    great tip, but for nuendo or cubase, please what´ll    be the plugin?? TNX  (or the equivalent 

  • Anonymous

    Sorry guys, but we only know how to do it with Logic and the Match EQ :-

  • Jordbord

    Great tip! For people who don’t have Logic, I’ve been looking around for plugins that do the same as the Match EQ, this one looks pretty good – Voxengo Curve EQ http://www.voxengo.com/product/curveeq/ I dunno how much it costs, but it does have an ‘Invert’ button so you can definitely use this trick with it, there is a tutorial on it here (in Spanish but with subtitles) – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhWa56ofr4Y 

    Good Luck 😉

    • Anonymous

      nice, thanks! 🙂

  • Wow! If only I knew before! Thank you so much for sharing.